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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.02.08 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: some idiot It is a pvp setup. He can tank and kill inexperienced pilots with it. And pilots that dont have a web. But after over 2 years of playing this game you do tend to pick up a thing or two. I tryed to be nice, and i was hoping for a friendly 1on1 were i would prove my points and even give him some advice. But mr "know it all" had to once again flame me.
Umm any cruiser with a webber is going to eat almost any frigate in the game. Where is it diffrent in any other pvp setup for a frigate? If the setup itself had no tanking then it would be HIGHLY recommended you don't fly it. Which was the original setup Malka used (Armor Rep, 3xCPR's). However this time it has a plate with CPR's. So I really don't see your arguement here at all. Cruiser > Frigate. Always has been. Nothing you can do. I have a Frig setup that's prob worth more than your battleship + mods. Yet it can die in 3 seconds because of a cruiser webbing me.
So what does that mean? It's about the tactics. 2 years of being here and you still think people win because of there setups. So sad. Stop posting.
Anyways, my setup recommendation was the same as the other guy who used modules not out now.
3x150mm II 1xNos
1xAB 1xWarp Scrambler
1xSmall Armor Rep II 1x200mm plate 1xCPR (Being it's your setup key mod) 1xAdapt nano I or II <---Needed
Yeah 150's are so much cooler they do a lot of damage same as 200 if not more due to reload, tracking, and um coolness! I think now with RMR you should start using more nano's on your setups. They really rock now and boost your tech 1 frigs so much more if you get the skills to support them. It's really nice tbh.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.02.08 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: idiot 1 I pointed out in my first post: Works well against inexperinced players. Won't work at all against pilots that know what to do. A cruiser with web, will give almost any frig a hard time. And fitting your ship for a specific task is beeing tactical. But you cant fit for all circumstances i know that. But you can try and minimise the risks of beeing killed. So try and read my first post before you flame me you moron. Have a nice day.
How would you fit it better? You get webbed you die. You go long range you gimp your DPS. You tank better you die later than sooner. There is nothing you can do. There is no point in your posts other than flaming him. Why are you still posting I have no clue. Yes we know "experience" players in anti-frig style ships can kill this setup AS ANY OTHER Setup with this ship, so why are you flamming him. So go away?
Originally by: idiot 2 I'll go attack someone with miner IIs and use 'tactics', or how about attacking a frigate with 1400s at 5km? Neutral. Tactics means applying the correct setup and resources in the appropriate situation. Therefore people do win because of thier setups.
Or were you one of those kids that kept trying to fit the square peg in the round hole?
Yes mocking me will help your reply. Will tacics help you hit with 1400's at 5km vs a Frig? Yes... If you know that your 1400's wont hit the target then you must use your brain and decide how you can kill the target in that current situtation. It's not your setup it's your tactics and experience. Otherwise you end up like the wombats and die because you sat there with your 1400's saying "Damn I give up I can't hit the target".
Tactics means everything to a setup. It's not the setup that wins the fights. It's the player. If you havn't learned that then don't post on pvp or on setups with tactic usages. Only you put yourself in a position to be ganked. Only you put yourself in a position as a frig 5km away from your big guns. It's your stupidity if you die not theres. Quit talking, I crush you with my wallet.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.02.08 21:01:00 -
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Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 08/02/2006 21:02:41
Originally by: Psycarne You just reiterated what I said you complete clown. You can't hit them at 5km with 1400s because you have the wrong setup for that situation.
My dear god how can people be this slow. Let me break it down for you simple one.
If you put yourself in a position to have a frigate 5km away from your 1400's which you obviously shown is very bad. Then it's your tactics that are weak. You put yourself in a position to not hit the target. Yes we know your SETUP wont hit the target. YES that is obvious. But your tactics lead you to the point you're in. It's your fault if you get put in the position to make your SETUP NOT HIT THE TARGET.
So that is how tactics plays a part in your setup. That's why people with bought elite characters of 20million skillpoint and a mimiced setup from the forums will still die to the hands of 10million skillpoints, experience, and tactics.
That is why my cheetah still kills interceptors. Tactics. Straight up fights I die. Yet tactics helps me do something much more with that ship. Think, it helps. Stop posting please. It shows your ignorance.
Quote: Do you actually play this game, or are you as clueless as you seems to be? Any way, i said that an experienced player would kill him. Never said setup against frigs, i said experienced player. And again the setup you use is a large part of the tactic involved in killing another ship. But i guess you can kill another pilot by jumping in to a shuttle and go up to the persons ship and say i got tactics die please, and they do. If you can do that i salute you. If not well i guess i was right and you were wrong.
Ok experience player will kill any setup? Ok... Why are you telling him that. I believe he knows that. How is that helping the post at all? Any experience player will pop any of your frig setups. Should I remind you? Idiots I swear
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.02.08 21:12:00 -
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Quote: No **** you complete jackass, that's why I said you have to use the correct setup for the right situation. Are you ******* blind?
That's why having the right setup for the correct situation is an important tactical dicision.
Utter utter bafoon.
You can use the correct setup and still lose because of your tactics. Explained this already. Why is it to hard to understand this.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.02.08 21:57:00 -
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You can't use miner II's as an example of why your tactical exp wont play a part in your overall win. It's not the same and I have no clue why you're using it other than the fact it's just wrong.
Just don't know why you guys are saying simple stuff like "this loses to experience players". Yeah cool, you might as well throw that in every setup thread. So whatever beef you have with the OP leave it out the thread. I believe that falls under common sense.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.02.11 04:38:00 -
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Originally by: OrangeAfroMan Listen to Weirda, Weirda is smart
And about the 2.2% difference in damage - Meh. Thats not enough to justify the larger requirements and worse tracking IMO.
But that is of course just my opinion, flame away like you always do
It's only a assumption of the damage not a fact of what the damage is. Resistance wise 200mm might be more than the 150mm. It might be equal... You might get higher DPS with 200mm other times you might not. But it's safe to say going 150mm's is not gimping yourself from not going 200mm. Even though you didn't say that but it's good to throw it out there instead of thinking it's a set "2.2%" better when it's not in every combat event.
150's are a good choice to always stick with anyhow. It saves a little more pg/cpu and that's what really counts. Why it's the best gun in the game by far.
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